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elmono311
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« on: Dec 13, 2004, 03:31 PM »

Players have agreed to take a 24 percent rollback on their salaries, which will save them about $528 million (considering the NHL lost $200 million in each of the last two seasons). Maybe they'll start playing again.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 13, 2004, 05:10 PM »

Now the question is, the players have made an uberconcession... what will the owners do to make the players happy and sign an agreement?
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 13, 2004, 05:52 PM »

Why don't they just take all the overpaid criminals...I'm sorry...I mean basketball players' salary and divide it up evenly with the hockey players? Hell, let's pull some of those baseball salaries as well into the pot. Namely Yankee salaries....
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 13, 2004, 06:25 PM »

Do you know what overpaid criminals do when you try and take their money?  See: Ron Artest's off-court behavior, ARod's on-field (or off-field) behavior, any crying baby with a large stick
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 13, 2004, 06:34 PM »

Anyway... it's turning back south again, as I figured... here come the marvelous owners...  I hate them so viciously...

NHL To Reject Union Proposal Outright:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1945492


"We believe the Union's offer was more about trying to unify the players and ensure player solidarity with what they would perceive as a very substantial proposal than it was about making a good faith effort to reach agreement with us ..." Daly writes. " ... The Union needed the 'rallying point' that it felt this offer would provide with the players to effectuate this strategy. Under this scenario, the Union will likely [and quickly] break off negotiations."

Daly also pokes holes in the union's specific proposals, while alluding to the NHL's position, writing:



The 24-percent rollback amount was adequate but should be structured among players "in a more equitable manner";



The proposed entry-level system "can still easily be circumvented";



The changes to the qualifying offer system "certainly would not result in the savings of the magnitude projected by the Union";



The salary arbitration alterations "would have very limited impact (if any) on a Club's or League-wide economics ... We intend to reiterate our proposal to eliminate salary arbitration in our next offer to the Union";



The luxury tax system demonstrates the union's "continuing objective to avoid at all costs placing meaningful restraints on a Club's ability to spend excessively on player salaries";
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 13, 2004, 07:57 PM »

I hate owners
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:01 PM »

The only time I'll miss hockey is the week off in between the Super Bowl and the Daytona 500.

Hockey shot themselves in the foot worse than baseball did.  At least baseball had some decent guys to make the game semi-good again.  Get off the steroids and it'll be OK.  Hockey will never recover.
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:06 PM »

This year, baseball had probably the greatest championship series ever played and one of the greatest comebacks and the biggest chokes in sports history. And I loved that the Yankees were in the biggest choke category :-)
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:09 PM »

Blah on that... baseball,  between the strikes and cancelling the Series, Corky and now the roid-fest (which gives me one more reason to hate Bonds), I can't stand baseball...

At least hockey does things for the communities that I hear about (Flyers Wives' Fight For Lives Carnival... lots of fun and involves players and their families).  Yes, hockey has had their share of problems too, but some of them right now are financial (clubs are having issues w/cash)... Just goes to show what over-expansion will do...

I just hope the owners piss off and start being decent so I can watch the Fly-guys again...
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:16 PM »

None of that affected my Orioles (other than the shortened season which prevented Cal Ripken from breaking the streak on time) so it doesn't bother me :-)
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:21 PM »

Quote from: Catfish
Do you know what overpaid criminals do when you try and take their money?  See: Ron Artest's off-court behavior, ARod's on-field (or off-field) behavior, any crying baby with a large stick



ROFLMAO

The imagery of some of these guys in diapers with a stick is killing me.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 13, 2004, 08:47 PM »

Anyone remember what Tie Domi encountered in Philadelphia? (I love that city...)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/news/2001/03/29/leafs_flyers_ap/

Do NOT make hockey fans or players mad.  Bad idea.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 13, 2004, 09:46 PM »

Lol.. the shame of it is I used to like hockey.. until the supposed tough guys with no teeth became mama's boys.  You mean to tell me that the league minimum (whatever ungodly amount that is) is not enough to go play a game for 6 months out of the year?  Please pay me a few hundred thousand dollars to go play tic-tac-toe or something, maybe I'll go on strike when I realize I can't win.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 13, 2004, 09:50 PM »

lol, at least then you'd have a legitimate reason to strike... but right now, well, wtf reason do they have?  waaaaaah... pro sports are suck, and college sports are getting that way thanks to the NCAA (see: Mike Williams, Jeremy Bloom)...  Too damn much politics.
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