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Magalhaes
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« on: Jan 20, 2007, 02:21 PM »

will PBcup ever start again?
it was before i started playing this game so....how was it like?it went well or there were any complications?who was organizing it?
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 20, 2007, 04:05 PM »

i was wondering the same thing...
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Spook
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 20, 2007, 04:09 PM »

well it was destroyed by one clan throwing a hissy fit for having to forfeit one map
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Bix
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 20, 2007, 05:03 PM »

basically you weren't able to use global chat so people wouldn't spam to the other team. 1 person from each team got this admin to talk. in a match a whole team was using it. that team had to forfeit 1 map. everyone got all mad and the person running it stopped playing dp for a bit.
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loial21
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 21, 2007, 12:31 AM »

Ironically the forfeit did not lesson one bit their chances of proceeding. The mistake that lead to failure was not the rules being broken or enforced, that was bound to happen at some point, with Bob it was a given. The cup admins allowed cup staff members to participate as cup players. There has never been justification for allowing active roster player with vested intrests to have authority in any capacity. Thats why third parties are used for mediation. This should have been mandated.

Bain spring cup was a huge success, specifically Rust vs GT for me was one the most exhilarating online matches to date. That and shooting Blitz to win the first round of cfire for GT which lead to a crushing defeat. Hi Justin!

Would paying you $100+ make it worth your time to see this start back up? If it is enough, then do me a favor and double the amount and we will have a deal. I strongly feel this helps the games growth it deserves nothing less.
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DirtyTaco
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 22, 2007, 04:07 PM »

PBCup was born by eR33t's hand and died by eR33t's hand.


We own this bitch.
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Bix
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:19 AM »

lol, it was fun for the like 6 months it lasted. screw the 1v1 part.
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lords8n
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:42 AM »

Naked LAN PBCup has my vote!
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XtremeBain
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 23, 2007, 11:42 AM »

Would paying you $100+ make it worth your time to see this start back up? If it is enough, then do me a favor and double the amount and we will have a deal. I strongly feel this helps the games growth it deserves nothing less.

- Peronsally I don't think the clan scene can handle it right now.  There is a lack of stability and sportsmanship.
- League administration is too tedious and time consuming.  Too much objection to rule enforcing and I have not found the necessary balance to make the most people happy.  I hate having to lockdown global chat.
- My servers are garbage and can't load maps half the time.
- I can't find anyone competant enough to convert existing maps to standardized marker placement using .ent files.  This creates tons of additional tedious work for me.
- Previous website was build on a framework created by Blitz and myself when we sucked at programming.  It has too many drawbacks and administration and customization requires too much overhead with uncertain results.
- The clan scene's expectation in a league versus their behavioural maturity creates a lot of additional work for such a small scene to begin with. (Requiring refs for each match, ensuring that refs don't abuse their access, handling situations when refs abuse their access, handling unnecessary situations to begin with).
- Now that I'm involved with eR33t again, I can just imagine how much unnecessary e-beef is going to occur on IRC, DP forums and PBCup forums.
- Cheating is rampant among the newbies as such, I'm sure it wouldn't take very long to talk to the right person to find an undetected cheat.  It would take all of 5 minutes for me to copy/paste/compile an undetectable cheat from one of the many cheaterforums these days.  Don't expect any sort of client side anticheat module to pick up these cheats until next year at the earliest.
- I'm expecting hardware-ids to be circumvented easily making catching the double clanners and cheaters the same cat-and-mouse game it is right now.
- I've got too many obligations to family, career and drinking to keep doing 90% of everything PBCup related.
- The Europeans would have to have their own league which will cause major uproar with the 25 UK and DE players that are 100x better than the rest of the European scene.  This needs to be done because it's creating extra hassle in almost all matches each week.  Sorting out ping differences and 6-10hr timezone differences are a nightmare for operation.
- I miss gibb Sad

If you wanna split this or quote me and open this up to discussion in a different thread go ahead.  Otherwise catch me on IRC when I'm not away or PM on here.
Edit: Hah, thought I was going offtopic in a different thread, didn't realize this was the PBcup one.  You can still PM me though Tongue
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DirtyTaco
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 23, 2007, 12:11 PM »

"- Now that I'm involved with eR33t again, I can just imagine how much unnecessary e-beef is going to occur on IRC, DP forums and PBCup forums."

So true, I remember when we released PBCup last time. 'OmG eR33tcup mOGOMGGMG DTcup OGMOGMOMGMG'

Its true though. The only reason eR33t won is because we loaded the maplist and the schedule in our favor. 2b0 would've snoozed us, easily.
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J0E
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 23, 2007, 07:00 PM »

If I remember correctly, ch1ll had the best record before eR33t ruined it.
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SkateR
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 23, 2007, 07:45 PM »

I'd be happy to help out with anything. Clearly I'm an outstanding member of this community.
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PiCaSSo
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 23, 2007, 08:14 PM »

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I'd be happy to help out with anything. Clearly I'm an outstanding member of this community.

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SkateR
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 23, 2007, 08:19 PM »

That is absolutely not necessary. Try again in a week. It's permanent next time. Stop fucking around.
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tipsyhitman
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:17 PM »

Well if anyone wants i could setup a website and a dp server(no more then 10 ppl max)
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XtremeBain
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:31 PM »

Well if anyone wants i could setup a website and a dp server(no more then 10 ppl max)

Thanks for the offer. Smiley  Web server, site and PB2 servers are something I have, can make or can obtain.  If anything I need people who are a little technical that can program or perform tasks without constant supervision.  Generally, the state of the community needs to change.  Clans need to be more organized, better operated and have better attitudes.
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DirtyTaco
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:39 PM »

If i remember correctly, eR33t won the only complete season of PBCup. Or maybe i was on a 3 month bender and imagined all of that.
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loial21
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:41 PM »

Leaders that dont want to lead.

Does not matter what e3rrt (sorry) er33t did!  Angry

Its what they are goinig to do!  Kiss

*Gibb....GOOD.
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tipsyhitman
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:43 PM »

Xtreme if you need help i can give you a hand. Im pretty good with computers and kinda good at programming stuff.
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loial21
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:44 PM »

Just look at the help. 

Are there any leaders any more?
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DirtyTaco
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 23, 2007, 09:46 PM »

Remember: Newbies have to be micromanaged.
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Bix
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 23, 2007, 11:33 PM »

how hard would it be to get a 4v4 tourney going?
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loial21
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 23, 2007, 11:40 PM »

Only the ones who can not follow starshstandardized rules to the farce WTF  Undecided

Dont know why that keeps popin up. its was a cut and paste gone wrong.



So why are you calling BOB+ Digi a newb? More than anyone they need microangermanagement.  Roll Eyes
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tipsyhitman
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 24, 2007, 12:06 AM »

All we have to do is make rules for the league/cup and have someone check to make sure each clan follows the rules. And make some requirements in order to sign up. Like you must have at least 5 players or like the leader must have AIM or MSN. And kind of base it off gamebattles, not to much but for the base of league/cup.
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DirtyTaco
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 24, 2007, 12:13 AM »

THANK YOU FOR THAT INCREDIBLE INSIGHT TIPSYHITMAN
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