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« on: Dec 22, 2006, 08:30 AM »

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 · Last updated 2:00 p.m. PT

By LARRY NEUMEISTER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

NEW YORK -- Federal appeals judges Wednesday challenged a government lawyer over the Federal Communications Commission's tough new policy against accidental use of profanities in broadcasts.

Amid legal arguments that sometimes included the F-word itself, a three-judge appeals court panel took a skeptical attitude toward what Fox Television Stations Inc. said was the FCC's radical expansion of its authority to severely punish what it cites as indecent speech.

The judges did not immediately issue a ruling.

At a minimum, at stake was the FCC's finding of indecency in two broadcasts of the Billboard Music Awards: the 2002 show in which Cher used a profanity, and the 2003 show in which reality TV star Nicole Richie did the same while telling a story about a Prada purse.

Also discussed during Wednesday's arguments was NBC's 2003 broadcast of the Golden Globes awards show when singer Bono uttered an obscenity.

Broadcasters are fighting the FCC conclusion that the broadcasts were indecent, even though no fines were issued. The FCC said the "F-word" in any context "inherently has a sexual connotation" and can be subject to enforcement action.

The government lawyer defending the FCC policy, Eric D. Miller, surprised some broadcasters when he said news programs covering the hearing could disseminate quotations with the F-word, even the stars' comments themselves, without FCC penalty.

Use of the otherwise indecent words in a news program, he said, would not meet the legal standard for barring them, which requires they be used to pander, to titillate or for shock value.

Later, Judge Peter W. Hall suggested that some people might find that awards shows themselves had news value as well.

And Judge Rosemary S. Pooler told Miller that broadcasters were troubled because they believe the FCC is subjective about what it believes is indecent.

"This seems to be a scheme that depends on what you think, instead of having an objective criteria broadcasters can use," she said.

The arguments were colorful as lawyers and judges alike found themselves uttering profanities. At one point, Judge Pierre N. Leval, suggesting that context matters, sparked some laughter when he asked Miller: "Would you be shocked to hear that a judge on the federal bench said `f---?'"

In written arguments submitted to the appeals court, Carter G. Phillips, a lawyer for Fox Television Stations, said for 30 years, the FCC had "never deemed fleeting, isolated or inadvertent expletives to be indecent."

The changes in rules, he said, mean "the end of truly live television and a gross expansion of the FCC's intrusion into the creative and editorial process."
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 22, 2006, 10:21 AM »

While I think the airwaves should be moderated (not the word moderate in there), I don't think that use of swear words during awards show should be censored.  How many times has something really good happened to you and you just, without thinking, blurt out "holy s***"?

The FCC really went overboard with the Janet Jackson thing at the Super Bowl.  And why?  Because parents complained because kids were watching it.  It's a live show.  Just like watching a live sports event and tempers get high.  It's called life.  Get over it.

And why can you say "damn it" but not "goddamn it".  I really don't think the people saying that really mean that God should damn whatever they are talking about.  It's a freaking figure of speech.  Next up, you won't be able to say you are going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  You'll be charged with child abuse.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 22, 2006, 10:30 AM »

I hate the FCC. Live shows where they can't exactly control the people like winners of awards should be seen with leniancy. In fact, FCC is a bunch of hypocrites. Back when Bono uttered the F-bomb, the FCC said it was okay because he didn't mean it in a sexual way and he was excited. And now they're going back and using it as an example? That's BS
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